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71suprema
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: germany
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gears in my 71 Cutlass?!?!?
^HI, i want to put new gears in my 1971 Cutlass Supreme with 5,7 v8 350/350 no ac.
My vin is: 342571M147213 Ill do an engine rebuild in about 2 months and my car mechanic means that i have to change my gears if i want to run my combo with the best results... He said (because im from Germany!!!) i dont go higher than 3.23 ! But what diff do i have??? So ive jacked up my baby and turned one wheel ; the other one turns to the opposite site. Ive counted 2,5 wheel turns by 1 shaft turn. its a 10 bolt. My diff has an Tag on the bottom of the cover but i dont know (there is something like "use limited slip......" )what it means.... My cover looks like the picture below. My question now is, What diff and what gears do i have and what does this tag means??? AND WHERE CAN I GET GEARS FOR MY REAR AXLE???? PlEASE HELP ME OUT!!!!!!!!! THANK YOU VERY MUCH !!! Greetings from Germany Torsten |
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Join Date: Oct 2005
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The tag on the rear means you have a posi-traction or limited slip rear differential. This is a good start and turning the wheel and counting driveshaft rotations while in neutral will give a pretty good idea of your rear gear ratio....do the test a few times. You came up with 2.5 turns with one full revolution of the wheel. That would indicate a 2.56 to 1 ratio....there may also be a number stamped on the rear axle housing. The shop manual would convert that number to the ratio you have. It also will show location of the stamp.
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Join Date: Mar 2008
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10 bolt "BOP" style.
That's a decent axle, but I think someone just put a posi tag on it, far different from having the unit inside. Bad joke. You can purchase eaton posi units (cone style-very good item) and gears for these brand new, I have even seen them on e-bay. The ring gear in your unit will have # stamped on them with gear tooth count (like 39/11, etc), find out what you have, lots of gears around if you want to change ratio's. 3.08 gears are really common in these, I'll bet you're close. Gut en tag. Jim in Phx. Last edited by Warhead : 04-22-2008 at 05:49 AM. |
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"So ive jacked up my baby and turned one wheel ; the other one turns to the opposite site. Ive counted 2,5 wheel turns by 1 shaft turn."
If the opposite wheel turns in the same direction it most likely is a posi....if the opposite wheel turns in the reverse direction of the one you are turning it is not a posi rear.
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I don't know if they used these in 1971 but you could look for the RPO codes on the trunk lid
It would be a "GU" code like GU2 GU3 GU4 Assuming nobody changed the rear end Here are some: GU1 : AXLE REAR, 2.41 RATIO GU2 : AXLE REAR, 2.73 RATIO GU4 : AXLE REAR, 3.08 RATIO GU5 : AXLE REAR, 3.23 RATIO GU6 : AXLE REAR, 3.42 RATIO GV1 : AXLE REAR, 2.73 RATIO GV2 : AXLE REAR, 5.83 RATIO GV3 : AXLE REAR, 3.08 RATIO GV4 : AXLE REAR, 3.36 RATIO GV5 : AXLE REAR, 3.55 RATIO GV7 : AXLE REAR, 4.11 RATIO GV8 : AXLE REAR, 2.72 RATIO GW2 : AXLE REAR, 2.56 RATIO GW3 : AXLE REAR, 2.56 RATIO GW4 : AXLE REAR, 3.31 RATIO GW5 : AXLE REAR, 2.73 RATIO GW6 : AXLE REAR, 3.27 RATIO GW8 : AXLE REAR, 4.10 RATIO GW9 : AXLE REAR, 2.93 RATIO (DUP WITH GU3)
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71suprema
Join Date: Jan 2008
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hi again
so im back from my mechanic....
So ive talked shit at first, means: the two wheels turns the same direction! :-)))) The 2.56 is correct we turned the wheel 1 time while the driveshaft turns 2.5 and some little bit.... now we couldnt find out what ring gear diam. i have .... All his books say the 8,2 and the 8,5 gasket lookin like mine...?!?!? Now im lookin round the world for gears.... i can found gears for the 8.2 bop but the lowest is 3.55 and for the 8.5 i could found from 3.08 till the 5s Next week we pull of the cover, and hopefullly we find out what diameter i have... So then If everyone can help me, i am very pleased!!!!!!!!!! Thanks to everyone Greetings from Germany Torsten |
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The rear looks like a Pontiac unit. In 1971 I believe Olds used a different rear than the one you pictured so maybe someone has swapped the rear. Also from 1968 to 1970 Olds used a 12 bolt cover rear. As for finding 308 gears you will need to see exactly what rear you have...you can look on Ebay, online junk yards, or online speed shops or post a want ad on the Oldsmobile sites.
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That could be a 1971 8.5 buick. I just bought one of those. Look for 2 big letter A on each side of the center section right where the axle tubes go into the center section. If there are the 2 A's it is a 71 buick 8.5 rearend and it will also have the 8.5 tits on the bottom of the cast housing near the bottom of the rear cover
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