hadafew

I seem to recall mention of a motor that was supposed to be just a bit hotter than the W-30. It was an option for the Toronados, and given the option W-34. Was that a real thing or just some made up bit from one of the many "experts" you run across. I don't have'm anymore, just curious. I never ran across anyone that saw one, even while still in the club.

hadafew

I guess maybe I should be asking the Toro guys.........

aliensatemybuick

Yes. And there was even a W-33 for the big RWD cars. You can let google be your friend, or someone will post the particulars, no doubt.

BILL DEMMER

there most definitely was a w-34, it was toro only, '68 only(truly special). after '68, things get a little sketchy-it may have been just badging. in '68, hurst grafted a w-34 motor and drivetrain into a '68 cutlass/442(that car has been found). the w-34 had a different cam, distributor, om coded sp tranny, oai, notched rear bumper, etc. a '68 toro w-34 is a pretty rare car(~111 made).


bill

11971four4two

OM code was on the trans tag

joe_padavano

W-34 was the high output engine option for the Toronado. It was available for the 1968-1970 model years. It was rated at 400 HP and 500 ft lbs, which on paper appears to be more that the 370 HP W-30 motor.

Do NOT confuse factory HP ratings with reality. GM had a corporate mandate that the A-body cars could not have less than 10 lb per HP. Not surprisingly, the top engine in the 3700 lb 442 was the 370 HP W-30. You do the math. The reality is that the W-30 had different heads, carb, advance curve, exhaust, and a significantly more radical cam than the W-34. Why would Olds go through all this trouble and additional expense to make LESS HP?

In a period magazine article, Roger Huntington showed that a 1970 W-30 (manual trans version) actually put out about 440 HP in stock form.

wmachine

The W34 was available in '68, '69, and '70. It was essentially the same engine all 3 years. The cam was the same as the 442 auto cam, as was the distributor. Even though it was referred to as "OAI", only the '68 had any semblance to OAI, which was an under hood scoop that was attached to the air clean snorkel on one end and opened into the inner fender pointing at the grill. Much like the '80s engines.
They were rated at 400hp, but they certainly did not make more HP that a W30 in the real world.
Production numbers for '69 are not certain, but they made ~6500 in 1970. I had one.
http://wmachines.shubes.net/OldsWMachinesPast.html

11971four4two

When I had my 69 I was told under twenty 20 known to exist that were in the w34registry.
I always wondered how many they actually made
Wish I had kept that one


found a link

https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...do-w-34-a.html

hadafew

That was great! Thanks for the info and now I know they did exist!

stevengerard

I almost bought a 68 W34 in 2002 for 3k, absolutely mint right here in Chicago, but 3k was 2.5k too much.

BILL DEMMER

according to the '68 csm, and the olds faq, the cam was unique to the '68 w34. after '68, it was used in others.

'68 cam
400165 57 285/287 .472/.472 455 Pol, Toro W-34, Hurst CAC

'69 cam
400165 57 285/287 .472/.472 455 Pol, Toro W-34, F-85, Hurst,
455 Mar 4BC hi-perf

'70 cam
400165 57 285/287 .472/.472 4257, 67, 4400 AT, Toro W-34

in '68 there was no badging on the car, in '69 & '70 they were badged as "toronado gt".


bill

wmachine

Um, Bill, as you yourself are showing, the '68 cam was used in the '68 L32 455 and AC Hurst.
The GT designation (and sole hood emblem) was 1970 only. Additionally, in '70, there were exclusive wheel well stripes.

sgolds

I had a 70 GT a few years ago. Cool car, not many people know about them