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Old April 18th, 2024, 01:34 PM
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Yikes!

How does this happen?? (Luckily I had a spare in the garage).



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Old April 18th, 2024, 01:39 PM
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Oooops. Misalignment, too loose or incorrect belt for application.
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Old April 18th, 2024, 01:40 PM
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One problem is that your belts are on wrong. The alternator belt goes on first (closest to the water pump) and then the power steering belt goes on.
You could also have the wrong water pump pulley.
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Originally Posted by v8al
One problem is that your belts are on wrong. The alternator belt goes on first (closest to the water pump) and then the power steering belt goes on.
You could also have the wrong water pump pulley.
Can anyone confirm this please? It would explain a lot.
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Old April 18th, 2024, 02:01 PM
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If not any of above brkt could be flexing
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Old April 18th, 2024, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 72455
Can anyone confirm this please? It would explain a lot.
I would think you could rapidly confirm via the CSM.
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Originally Posted by v8al
One problem is that your belts are on wrong. The alternator belt goes on first (closest to the water pump) and then the power steering belt goes on.
You could also have the wrong water pump pulley.
This has never happened before, so I don't think it's the water pump pulley.
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Old April 18th, 2024, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Vintage Chief
Oooops. Misalignment, too loose or incorrect belt for application.
Misalignment caused by the belts being on wrong?
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Old April 18th, 2024, 02:11 PM
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Misalignment caused by the belts being on wrong?
Who knows. Incorrect spacers on brackets, incorrect brackets, spacers installed incorrectly on brackets, brackets installed incorrectly yielding to belt misalignment. It's rather well described in the CSM and the PIM.
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Old April 18th, 2024, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Vintage Chief
Well, looks like I've got something else to work on...lol.
Now, if I could get some guidance on this, I'd be even further ahead.
https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...squeal-178810/
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Old April 18th, 2024, 03:46 PM
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Old April 18th, 2024, 03:57 PM
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Belt misalignment as said above. I had that happen back in the 80s after an alternator replacement. Discovered there was a washer UNDER the pulley instead of ON TOP of the pulley. That was enough misalignment to cause the belt to roll at high RPM. Apparently it doesn’t take much misalignment to cause an issue.
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Old April 19th, 2024, 03:39 AM
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Refresh my memory...two nuts to loosen for removal of the p/s belt. One up top and one down below, correct?
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Old April 19th, 2024, 04:12 AM
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Originally Posted by 72455
Refresh my memory...two nuts to loosen for removal of the p/s belt. One up top and one down below, correct?
Two bolts on the front side (one up top and one near the bottom). There is also a nut on the rear bottom side. Loosen all 3.
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Old April 19th, 2024, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Muggard
Two bolts on the front side (one up top and one near the bottom). There is also a nut on the rear bottom side. Loosen all 3.
What's the trick to getting to the bottom bolt? It's pretty tight quarters down there, and I know I've done it before, but memory fails me...lol
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Old April 19th, 2024, 04:54 PM
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What's the trick to getting to the bottom bolt? It's pretty tight quarters down there, and I know I've done it before, but memory fails me...lol
I use an open ended wrench. Tough to get a good bite on the bolt, so hopefully, you can break it loose farily easily.
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Originally Posted by Muggard
I use an open ended wrench. Tough to get a good bite on the bolt, so hopefully, you can break it loose farily easily.
I tried that but there's no way to get a swing once I grab the bolt.
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Old April 19th, 2024, 06:16 PM
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Can someone please provide a pic? I'm in a time crunch.
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Old April 20th, 2024, 02:46 AM
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This is really frustrating me because I know I've done it before but I can't remember how. I've got to be overthinking it or I'm missing something. I know it wasn't this difficult for me the last time.
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Try a ratchet end wrench, you maybe get a click or to with that...Tedd
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Old April 20th, 2024, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Tedd Thompson
Try a ratchet end wrench, you maybe get a click or to with that...Tedd
Yup...that's my plan. I just wish I could remember how I did it last time. Do you think an offset box wrench would work?

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Old April 20th, 2024, 10:30 AM
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Can't recall exactly how I removed/re-installed that bolt but I'm nearly positive it was a swivel socket on a ratchet or a swivel adapter attached to a socket. Maybe an offset - don't recall. I have a set of 1/4" sockets & 1/4" ratchet wrench which has bailed me out in many instances. 1/4" sockets, swivels & ratchets are awesomely handy in tight spaces.
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Originally Posted by Vintage Chief
Can't recall exactly how I removed/re-installed that bolt but I'm nearly positive it was a swivel socket on a ratchet or a swivel adapter attached to a socket. Maybe an offset - don't recall. I have a set of 1/4" sockets & 1/4" ratchet wrench which has bailed me out in many instances. 1/4" sockets, swivels & ratchets are awesomely handy in tight spaces.
Norm, do you think 1/4" drive would give me enough leverage?
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Old April 20th, 2024, 11:02 AM
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Norm, do you think 1/4" drive would give me enough leverage?
Dave - Removing that bolt isn't something I've ever routinely had to do. Wish I could answer that for you. Sometimes it's a combination of things including a small extensions & small hollow pieces of metal (pipe) over the wrench/ratchet. Think outside the box. Sorry, buddy. You'd be surprised the amount of force/leverage 1/4" ratchets, sockets provide.
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Old April 20th, 2024, 06:17 PM
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Now I remember what I did...I used the right size wrench...lol. Went back at it tonight after work and realized I was trying to turn a 1/2" bolt with a 9/16" wrench...Doh! Things went great once I figured that out...lol.

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Originally Posted by 72455
Now I remember what I did...I used the right size wrench...lol.


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Originally Posted by Vintage Chief

Yep Norm...a lesson well learned...lol. I bet I wont forget again.
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Dave - Your most admirable quality is your honesty. Not many would even admit to having made this error. I hope you get the belt issue resolved.
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Originally Posted by Vintage Chief
Dave - Your most admirable quality is your honesty. Not many would even admit to having made this error. I hope you get the belt issue resolved.
I already did Norm...switched them around last night. And I don't mind admitting my blunders...so much the better if others can benefit.
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Old April 21st, 2024, 01:44 PM
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Yeah, I recall me installing the oil pan gasket on my 350 twice and admitting how far too much gasket sealer I had used. That was painful especially while working under the car on jack stands w/ engine hoisted just enough (4") to get the oil pan free.
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