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1971 442 convertible 4 SP 455 with air all the w30 options .
I don't know how many were built because there are a lot of different numbers out there.
Its a factory 4 SP car and it does have air so it is rare .
I don't expect to get 156k out of it but I would like $65000 for it
what do you think?
As far as I can tell it is a w30 but I can't not prove it
because I don't have a build sheet for it and GM did not keep good records back then.
It has everything a W30 should have .
But I'm just being honest here .
Not sure what book your reading.. there's no W30 4 speeds with air. automatics - sure... no 4 speeds.
Nice car.
And the reasoning was because of the fat camshaft I believe? No idle vacuum to speak of. Which would then make power brakes NA on W-30 4 speed too, correct? Didn't see complete it but the MC looks to be of the power brake angle. Maybe I'm blind. Not that adding a PB booster couldn't be done, but why unless you had a huge vacuum canister somewhere? Not knocking the car, but simply trying to verify if something should have came a certain way on a manual W-30 or not.
It's not a real W-30. As you suspect, the four speed cars got the 328/328 cam that did not create enough vacuum for power brakes or A/C (plus, adding those heavy option kind of defeat the purpose of buying a high-output engine). The red inner fenders are the poorly-formed early repros that don't properly mimic the shape of the real ones. The fact that your first post says "...with all the W-30 options" tells me that you already knew it wasn't a real W-30. Nice car, few 4spd convertibles made in 1971. Good luck with the sale.
I have a report from the GM Heritage Center Its in-depth report .
Just looking to sale a very nice olds anyone want to make a offer before the dreaded Ebay
report
I have a report from the GM Heritage Center Its in-depth report .
All of that info is available on the web. In any case, there is no way that GM Heritage Center knows if this car is a real W-30 or not. GM of Canada would have records if the car was originally sold in Canada, but GM Heritage Center has no records that link VIN to options.
As said I don't care I'm looking to sale a car .
thats why I said (As far as I can tell it is a w30 but I can't not prove it
because I don't have a build sheet for it and GM did not keep good records back then.
It has everything a W30 should have .
But I'm just being honest here .)
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the AC limitation was related to the gear in the rear end. The 3.23:1 gear was the stiffest gear you could get from the factory if you wanted AC. Steeper gears produced higher RPMs which the AC compressors did not like.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the AC limitation was related to the gear in the rear end. The 3.23:1 gear was the stiffest gear you could get from the factory if you wanted AC. Steeper gears produced higher RPMs which the AC compressors did not like.
There were two different limitations. The compressor speed drove rear end gearing limits, but the fact that the A/C flapper doors are all vacuum operated drove the restriction with the MT W-30 cam.
I wonder what's rarer, original Black or Lime Green (this car's factory color).
If this still had the original color combo I'd be all over it. Not as a W30 but as a Lime Green with white top, white interior and a 4-speed with air. As it is it is still a nice car.
If this still had the original color combo I'd be all over it. Not as a W30 but as a Lime Green with white top, white interior and a 4-speed with air. As it is it is still a nice car.
That's exactly what my car is - 1971 Lime Green (paint code 43) 442 4-speed with air. Mine was a non ram air hood 3.23 M20 car. Of course the original block is gone (now a 468) and now it's a 6 speed with 4.10 gears....etc etc. Obviously I'm bias and think the Lime Green with white interior/top is the best color combo ever made. Tough to see it all converted to black but obviously still a very nice car! That said I still have lots of black fiberglass on mine until it gets painted so I guess shouldn't say anything bad about black at this point!
Which is meaningless until cash changes hands. I've seen too many cars "sold" on ebay that get listed again in a week or two because the sale didn't close.
I was just putting the bid out there. Should show what the market is , or close to it. I agree with you about ebay , c list and everyplace else. Its all bullshit until the cash is on the hood. I have had no less than 20 tire kickers for my 66s, wearing me out. Worst part is waiting and no shows. I think bring a trailer is my next move. It either sells or it dont.
I was just putting the bid out there. Should show what the market is , or close to it.
I understand, but my point is that it really doesn't show what the market is. You have no idea if the bidder who went to $37K ever intended to actually go through with the deal or not. Some people just play games to run the number up without hitting reserve and have no intention of actually buying the car.
I understand, but my point is that it really doesn't show what the market is. You have no idea if the bidder who went to $37K ever intended to actually go through with the deal or not. Some people just play games to run the number up without hitting reserve and have no intention of actually buying the car.
So true. I had 2 cars supposedly sell on eBay and both buyers backed out due to their wives not being aware of their purchase. Had to file the non paying bidder form and re-list.
August 27th, 2019, 06:23 PM
Obviously I'm bias and think the Lime Green with white interior/top is the best color combo ever made. Tough to see it all converted to black but obviously still a very nice car! That said I still have lots of black fiberglass on mine until it gets painted so I guess shouldn't say anything bad about black at this point!
