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Old January 11th, 2022, 08:55 PM
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Father wants to get a 69 Cutlass S

My father is looking to get a 69 Cutlass S. He sent me a link to the one that he is looking to get and asked me if I thought it was a fair price or not. Unfortunately, I know nothing about classic cars and I do not want to steer him in the wrong direction. It seems a little high to me but I would rather get the opinion of some folks on here. Here is a link to the car: https://www.streetsideclassics.com/v...-s-convertible Any input would be greatly appreciated. Any specific questions we should ask the seller?
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Old January 11th, 2022, 09:25 PM
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Welcome to the site. It's more than just a little high. For that kind of money I would expect it to be pristine.
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Old January 12th, 2022, 04:09 AM
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If you buy a car there, in my opinion, you will pay 1/3 to double the price relative to buying direct from an owner.
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Old January 12th, 2022, 05:16 AM
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That is a really nice car, very clean and has some nice options. However as has been said, it is priced high. Probably 10 - 15k, I would keep looking. Good Luck
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Old January 12th, 2022, 06:47 AM
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Does he want a convertible? Generally speaking add 10-20% more $ for a similar condition convertible.

as stated any of the classic car resellers and auctions add a premium to the asking price.

any old car whether its a good driver or completly restored is going to need more attention/ maintenance than any more modern car.

for a good condition driver 68-72 cutlass expect to pay $10-25k

iirc the eagle st tire (on this 69) is pretty old, any tire over 10yrs should probably be replaced for safety.
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Old January 12th, 2022, 07:20 AM
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That's stupid money for that car. Lots of aftermarket parts, which means the car has been blown apart and reassembled. Frequently these sorts of builds only get about half the fasteners put back in, so careful inspection is required. The cowl tag shows that the car was originally Aztec Gold, so what kind of rust repair is under that "Resale Red" paint, and what is the quality of the work? It's only a 350 2bbl motor. The disc brakes are aftermarket with a smaller-than-stock power brake booster. Personally a dealership like this wouldn't be my first choice.
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Old January 12th, 2022, 09:36 AM
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45K will buy a nice 442. This looks like a solid Fremont driver quality body & frame. IMO ~20-25K car(sight unseen). At 20-25K, you would not be upside down on it.
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Poorly-hung convertible top, shabby upholstery, dull and dinged trim, probable repairs required under that padded steering wheel cozy, white face accessory gauges, chipped and scratched dash, taupe (???) seatbelts along with all the previously-mentioned demerits = they'd do well to get half that asking price.
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Old January 12th, 2022, 03:23 PM
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You're looking at 25-30% sales commission for the dealership. I don't think they own any of the cars they list; more a brokerage or consignment operation.

I was interested in a 67 Thunderbird they had in the Atlanta showroom but couldn't spare time for an Atlanta and back trip. Asked if they could move the car to Charlotte showroom, which I could have done.

They quoted me $3000 transport fee to do that. 3 grand to truck the Bird 250 miles. That's when I realized this was an outfit that would bend you over any way they could. I know everybody's gotta eat, but 12 bucks a mile when most tow companies were charging <$2/mile didn't set well with me.

Caveat emptor. There are nicer cars for less money when you stay away from the auctions and big-name dealers.
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Old January 12th, 2022, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by RetroRanger
iirc the eagle st tire (on this 69) is pretty old, any tire over 10yrs should probably be replaced for safety.
Good point. I think those tires were last manufactured at least 15 years ago.

EDIT: Now that I check, it's closer to 20 years. I hope whoever buys that car changes out the tires before he drives anywhere.

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Old January 12th, 2022, 04:46 PM
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As a comparison, this sold at mecum today:
https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0122-48...s-convertible/
Final sale price of $29,700 with buyer commission (figure around 10% so $25K-$26K at the hammer). Not a bucket seat car, but factory A/C. Looks like it is mostly untouched underneath (fenders jammed in black under hood, heavy undercoating on the inner fenders etc.). From the video, the outside, interior and top appear pretty nice although a quick video can be deceiving. Being sold at one of the largest classic car auctions of the year (running 10 days and listing 1000's of cars) I would say it should serve as a pretty good representation of the cars actual value (possibly even an exaggeration of the actual value outside of an auction or retail setting).
This 68 convertible (bucket seat car w/o console & w/o A/C) sold yesterday for $30,800 with commission. Again looks like a mostly unrestored car.
https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0122-48...s-convertible/

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That car looks nicer and more genuine than OP's candidate.
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Old January 12th, 2022, 10:10 PM
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As others mentioned, the car has obviously had a resale red paint job and interior restoration. If your going to go thru the time, effort and expense to change colors, why would you cheap out on the matching seat belts?! Makes you wonder what other things they were too cheap to correct.

Id say half the asking price would be a good starting point.

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Those are two beautiful cars. As stated, very original and clean, for 30k
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Old January 13th, 2022, 11:33 AM
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Thanks everyone for the feedback. My dad has decided to pass on the car. Does anyone have any recommendations as to where we can look to find cars for sale?
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Old January 13th, 2022, 12:06 PM
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Have you considered posting a cars wanted ad on this site? List the year models, preferred colors, etc.

Also try carsonline.com, Ebay, etc.
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Old January 13th, 2022, 12:21 PM
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Check with local BST sites, car clubs and wander through any shows or car gatherings. People often have vehicles for sale at any of those events.
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Old January 13th, 2022, 01:16 PM
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It's auction season. Not everything is as overpriced as Barrett-Jackson. Ask your dad how he'd feel about a trip to Arizona.
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https://www.autotempest.com/

https://www.oldsmobilecentral.com/se...ar=1969&page=1

http://classiccardb.com/oldsmobile/

https://classiccars.com/search/advanced



BTW Craigs List has a feature (at the top area) that you click a MAP and can expand the search area to MANY states. not just the local that you opened

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