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Old September 29th, 2009, 12:49 PM
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How do I determine if my numbers match

I am looking at a 1969 Cutlass S convertible and have negotiated a general price with the seller; however, I would like to know if the motor and tranny are original to the body. How can I find this out and which numbers are important? Where will they be located? Thanks for the help.
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Old September 29th, 2009, 01:21 PM
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As far as I know, you can't find this out. Oldsmobile didn't start using the VIN derivative stamp until 1971.
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Old September 29th, 2009, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Olds64
As far as I know, you can't find this out. Oldsmobile didn't start using the VIN derivative stamp until 1971.
That's not true. The VIN is stamped onto the block on a machined pad just below the #1 spark plug. It will also be stamped on the transmission above the pan rail on the drivers side I think.

It should read something like 39MXXXXXX. The last 6 will match the last 6 of the car.

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They started the VIN derivative stamping of the blocks in 1968.
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Old September 29th, 2009, 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 1969w3155
They started the VIN derivative stamping of the blocks in 1968.
Correct. It was a federal requirement starting in the 1968 model year as an attempt to prevent chop shops from selling stolen car parts.
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Old September 30th, 2009, 05:52 AM
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Oh ok. I was off by 3 years.
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If you're still looking for this info, here are the locations for the drivetrain VIN stamps:





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Old October 10th, 2009, 12:01 PM
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Is there any VIN id on axle housing?
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Old October 10th, 2009, 12:36 PM
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No VIN but there should be numbers stamped into the housing on the passenger side tube.
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Old October 12th, 2009, 05:43 PM
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On my car the alternator bracket hinders any chance of seeing the number on the engine block. I wasn't about to unbolt the bracket, so it took a hydraulic lift, some brake cleaner and a mirror to discern the number (and it matched thankgoodness).
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Good info here.

I'm going to go check mine now.
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It will be permissible to obliterate the numbers ...

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