B Bodies 3 on the tree
December 14th, 2012, 08:23 AM
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Scott, pretty sure they can use the same rims your car has. Those caps are actually 54-56 dogbowls but are listed in the parts books for 15" wheel & police on up thru about 1965-66. The 50s rims had those spring clips that held the cap on.
I had always been under impression all 65-71 3-speed stickshift big cars got the Ford toploader 3-speed instead of the GM tranny. Commonly called "Dearborn" transmission in GM applications.
Guess Olds figured that 15" wheel option, like the 3-speed, wouldn't generate enough orders to make specific 15" full wheelcovers or their own heavy-duty transmission worth manufacturing. So they raided the parts bin for hubcaps and called the folks across town who had plenty of suitable transmissions and were willing to sell.
I had always been under impression all 65-71 3-speed stickshift big cars got the Ford toploader 3-speed instead of the GM tranny. Commonly called "Dearborn" transmission in GM applications.
Guess Olds figured that 15" wheel option, like the 3-speed, wouldn't generate enough orders to make specific 15" full wheelcovers or their own heavy-duty transmission worth manufacturing. So they raided the parts bin for hubcaps and called the folks across town who had plenty of suitable transmissions and were willing to sell.
December 14th, 2012, 09:28 AM
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3 Speed Transmission
No Ford Top loader here.. GM all the way ! I was told it has an 11" Clutch by the prior owner (70 yr old lady). Everyone is telling me 10.5 clutch, we shall see this spring or sooner.
December 14th, 2012, 09:45 AM
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Here is what the M13 B-O-P HD Syncromesh, 6-bolt top cover looks like:
3-speed-Man-Trans-LEFT.jpg
Here is the info on it -
http://www.pontiacsafari.com/L1Garag...ions/index.htm
3-speed-Man-Trans-LEFT.jpg
Here is the info on it -
http://www.pontiacsafari.com/L1Garag...ions/index.htm
December 14th, 2012, 02:17 PM
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December 14th, 2012, 02:32 PM
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I guess I'll find out for sure when I drop it this spring.. I'm getting some slippage & chatter, so I'll replace the clutch. Only makes sense though to use an HD 3 speed transmission behind the 425.
December 20th, 2012, 05:36 AM
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Thanks, Bill. But what I was wondering was if the caps and rims are special; in other words, would those caps work on the usual steel rim or can they only be used on rims like the ones on your car, and vice versa (that is, do those rims require a special poverty cap). My recollection (but I can't recall for SURE) was those rims were a special police item, and the caps are a holdover Olds kept from the 50s. Read it on this site some years back I think.
December 22nd, 2012, 09:16 AM
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December 22nd, 2012, 09:32 AM
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Easy Now... Just kidding, yeah you are right though, it looks to be just a little build up there... Like I said all original, never a part. It's 29 degrees out, but sunny.. I may attempt to scrap it off ... Inquiring minds would like to know, to include myself.
December 23rd, 2012, 03:22 PM
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Survey Says
Here you go Glenn.... I did some research on Wild about Cars, which I would like to thank Kurt Shubert for turning me onto this website... Darn Good Info.
December 23rd, 2012, 03:34 PM
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I found some good info on it here:
http://theamcforum.com/forum/borgwar...opic25427.html
http://theamcforum.com/forum/borgwar...opic25427.html
December 23rd, 2012, 03:43 PM
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Yours has the same model # as this one:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1963-1962-ST...-/170698888218
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1963-1962-ST...-/170698888218
December 23rd, 2012, 06:50 PM
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Just curious, so I checked further.
The toploader I show in post #55 was option M14 and available starting In Feb and only available with the 442 for the remainder of '65. It became the B-body 3 speed manual in '66.
I wondered if after Feb '65, it went in the big cars too. But no, the Assembly Manual shows the toploader (identified as the "2nd type") was only available with the 442 (L78) and cop car A-bodies with the 400 (L77).
The toploader I show in post #55 was option M14 and available starting In Feb and only available with the 442 for the remainder of '65. It became the B-body 3 speed manual in '66.
I wondered if after Feb '65, it went in the big cars too. But no, the Assembly Manual shows the toploader (identified as the "2nd type") was only available with the 442 (L78) and cop car A-bodies with the 400 (L77).
December 23rd, 2012, 07:15 PM
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Thanks Kurt you are the man when it comes to Oldsmobile info. Also I sold my 1966 442 L-78 option car , 54,000 original miles, just needed some love & a place to do it. I'm maxed out for work/storage space. I still have my L69 option 66 442.
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