Aceshigh

Looking for people who have modified their 2 front belt system to a single 3 point modern retractable seat belt system.

I think Gary's 68 did one but I'm looking for success stories, and pics showing what you used.
Any input is appreciated.

The 2 belt system in my 1970 442 clone is somewhat annoying to deal with since the upper belt doesn't budge once it's strapped to the buckle.
I've seen systems like these

http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/de...QUS-SBELT.html

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/MR...9-CH/?rtype=10

garys 68

Doing interior stuff when it's cold there in Chicago?
I bought a pair off ebay. Lots cheaper. If you want the drop sash, go a couple inches longer than I did. Mine come across my neck a little too high if I dont wear a collar.
I've got a source for the right angle base mounts too.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-Point-Retr...14435535795316

Aceshigh

Nooooo not doing it now.....too damn cold.
I'm putting my parts lists together for the Spring cleaning and LS completion.

I'm doing a new AAW Highway 22 harness , new seat belts, and new LED Gauges.
YES I DO !!!! I definitely would prefer something that allows it to NOT choke
me out while driving. So a drop sash......where do I acquire one of these ,
and is it universal ??

I'd really love to find a 3 point retractable set that's dark enough of a green to somewhat match my interior.
You got pics of your setup I can see how you attached it to the roof ??? That's the big thing i'm curious about.

Aceshigh

Well this is exactly what I'm looking for in the drop but the price is outrageous.

http://www.andoauto.com/1968-72_Chevelle_Seat_Belts.htm
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/304874...-2#30487400131

garys 68

I originally planned on mounting the aftermarket belt mount to the roof position. That was way too high on my neck. I used the old top belt (it had never been used) to make a drop sash and sew it over the dismantled aftermarket top belt mount. After putting a couple thousand miles on it, I realized it would be a little more comfortable if I had made it a couple inches longer.
Mine were black, so it was easy to match the aftermarket to original belts. You might want to order something cheap like matching non-retractable belts to cut up and make a drop sash that matches the rest of the belt. When I ordered mine, I got a pair of non retractable lap only belts for the rear seat. They were only about $25.
Note: If you sew anything up, you must use UV resistant thread.
And a good source for seat belt hardware.
http://wescoperformance.stores.yahoo.net/seatbelts.html
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Aceshigh

Gary, you're inspiring to see what kind of work you can do.
You are above my level with your resourcefulness and abilities.

You go boy.
Alright, I think I'm going with Andover Restraints for $180 for the pair.
I read it incorrectly because it's not very clear that it's for a set , not a single seat.

I had a thread going on Chevelles.com for faster input.
http://www.chevelles.com/forums/show...08#post3392608

garys 68

Dont forget, the roof mount is held in place by 2 small bolts. They're too small to hold the typical single bolt seat belt end. You'll need some kind of adapter.

radioburningchrome

Email the member : Klayfish. He had it done.

JimMorrisonFan67

What is there available for convertibles?

Don Roberto

I have the same dilemma now that I just purchased a 1970 cutlass supreme convertible (442 clone). I found a few suppliers online and I might like to have a shop installing them. I prefer to shed some extra $$$ and have it done professionally for safety reasons of course.

http://www.jcwhitney.com/seats-seat-...=d12060y1970g2

bdub217

I would guess verts would have the shoulder belt part of the seat?

similar to the above pic.

chrisneu68olds

I have searched all of the threads for 3-point seatbelt kits for my '71 and it appears that this one would work the best for my needs:

http://www.andoauto.com/1968-72_Chevelle_Seat_Belts.htm

Front Coupe/Hardtop Retrofit Retractable Lap Belt With Shoulder Harness Kits

W8455 Series: Front Retrofit Kit. Bucket Seat. 8" DPE. Fits coupe/hardtop.2 persons/positions kit.

Has anyone on CO installed this kit in their 68-72 Cutlass (or any A-Body) and if so, are you happy with it and does it work? I am liking the 8" drop sash...

If anyone has used anything else let me know.

Thanks,

steverw

Google Morris Classic Concepts, they make them for Chevelles, should be the same for Cutlass/442. I actually talked to him yesterday, asked if i could send him my original Deluxe BIG buckles to make 3 point belts. He said no problem, wants me to send him a picture of the buckles and belts. It will cost somewhere between 350 and 400 bucks for both fronts. Seems a little pricey but worth it to me, and I can keep my original Big stainless buckles. Hes really a stand up guy, I read some of his post on a Chevelle forum, some had some problems with his belts. He chimed in and asked what are the problems? Said he will correct any problems for free and redesign anything needed. Its a family run business, he was really helpful and nice on the phone.

Steve

dc2x4drvr

I installed the Morris 3 point belts, great product, easy install..

Mr Nick

Another vote for Morris belts. I have them in my car, great product.

chrisneu68olds

Anyone care to share a few pics post install? I would like to see what they look like in real life.

Mr Nick

I would, but my carpet and seats are out for winter projects.

Macadoo

Geez louise! Is that $336 per belt or for a set?

http://www.morrisclassicconcepts.com/chevelle67-73.html

Mr Nick

A pair of front belts http://www.summitracing.com/parts/mr...bkbs/overview/

Not cheap, but one of the only improvements you can do to make your car safer in the event of an accident. Many options to help prevent one (better tires, suspension, brake upgrades etc), but once you're past the point of no return, not much you can do.

Macadoo

Well now, for a pair, that ain't so bad. Thanks for the link, Nick.

garys 68&72

To be perfectly honest, I've got less than $100 in mine and am really happy with them. But I wouldn't think twice about spending $300 to keep my face intact regardless of how ugly I am.
If you do piece together something, make sure everything is good quality hardware.

RetroRanger

http://www.summitracing.com/search/p...rder=Ascending

summit shows a variety of 3 pt belts as garys68 said tho they may not fit correctly w out a drop sash or relocating the shoulder point

Mr Nick

Hope this helps.

Boiler_81

Seats which have integral belts have seat structures which are designed to take the load in case of an accident. The structures used in the GM A bodies are not designed for the loads. They would fold and you would face plant into the windshield.

35olds

I know this is an old thread, but just wondering what the comfort level is like with the belts from Morris Classic. Does the extender from the top mount lower the sash belt enough so that it doesn't cut into your neck ???
Would be very keen to see a photo of someone sitting in the car with the belt on if you ever had the opportunity. I'd just like to be sure that I'm making the right choice before getting a set shipped to Australia. Any guidance here would be great. Thanks.

dc2x4drvr

I like the Morris belts a lot, just drove 3500 miles on Power Tour, 2 guys, both over 6' tall, very comfortable wearing the belts.

35olds

Thanks, for the feedback. All the evidence indicates that Morris Classic Concept are certainly good belts and bolt straight in. Very helpful people too from the contact I've had with them.