Zr1bandit

Is it possible to install a new rag joint on a 1970 442 steering column 180 degrees off ? I know the rag joint only slides onto the steering box one way, but was wondering if the rag joint itself could be rotated 180 degrees on the steering shaft itself.

joe_padavano

The factory rag joints use two different size bolts to prevent installing the shaft 180 out. I've found aftermarket rag joints often don't have this feature so you have to pay attention to clocking. On the assembly line, all parts from the steering box to the steering wheel center had positive clocking features that only allowed them to be installed one way.

Zr1bandit

so my after market rag joint may be installed 180 off Maybe this explains why my steering wheel emblem is facing down not up ?

joe_padavano

That absolutely will

70Post

Is your horn contact ring (the part the horn button presses/snaps on to) a replacement or an original?

Zr1bandit

origainal

joe_padavano

The important thing to pay attention to is the scribe mark on the end of the steering shaft. With the wheels straight ahead, the scribe mark needs to be at 12 o'clock.

Zr1bandit

having trouble seeing that scribe mark. Would the horn button being at 12 o’clock be the same ?

joe_padavano

Look again. The scribe mark is there. The horn button may or may not be a reliable indicator. Look we've spent more time talking about this than it takes to fix it. If the wheel is 180 out, the only way for that to happen (assuming you have equal number of turns from side to side in the box) is that the rag joint clocking is wrong.

Zr1bandit

Checking rag joint today, pretty sure that’s why I’m 180 like you said. appreciate all the info, thanks again 👍

joe_padavano

The other thing to note is that with the wheels straight ahead, the bolt on the pinch clamp that holds the intermediate shaft to the splines on the column will have the nut pointed up to make it easy to tighten. The bolt has a square feature that fits into the clamp, so this only goes one way. Of course, if the clamp has been removed from the coupling housing and reinstalled incorrectly, that won't be a reliable indication either. The shaft in the column has a notch in the splines that this clamp bolt passes through, so the coupling only goes on the splines one way.




In this photo, the head of that clamp bolt should be down when slid over the splines.

Zr1bandit

fixed, my coupler was a little different than your pic, no nut on bolt that fastens coupler to steering box. mine has just the bolt that threads into to coupler. and my steering wheel was not fastened to hub correctly either. Rotated it to the proper spot now everything all lined up. Thanks again for the help

70Post

ZR1 - FWIW (and possible future reference to this thread by others).....the pic Joe shows immediately above (of the clamp, nut and bolt on the UPPER swivel) is the end that connects to the splined shaft on the end of the STEERING COLUMN.

Your reply above (to that pic) indicates you think/thought this pic showed the end of the shaft that connects to the STEERING BOX.....it doesn't.

Zr1bandit

i see it now, my mistake. Thanks.