Yet another 455 question - main caps won't torque up

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Old April 14th, 2024, 10:41 AM
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Yet another 455 question - main caps won't torque up

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My 455 main cap bolts are not feeling right as I torque them down. They all acted the same up through 100 lbs with the 2 rears tightening up more quickly. Then trying to move up to 120 on all, the 2 rears hit it with very little rotation. The forward 8 bolts, most hit 120 ok but 2 or 3 won't go past 112-115 and turned almost a quarter turn with no increase. I have a light 10w40 oil on threads and under the head. I'm scared to go any more. Think these factory bolts have "yielded"? Maybe get a new set?
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Old April 14th, 2024, 10:50 AM
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Check your bolts for “hourglassing”. I suspect that they are stretched. It might be time for some new hardware.
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Old April 14th, 2024, 11:12 AM
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Paul,
Another possibility is that the cast iron tapped threads are yielding. With factory bolts this is more common than the bolts yielding.
This can happen if using a bolt lube with more "slipperiness" than the factory-prescribed lube.
If your lube is a synthetic oil, that would be an example.
Even if this happens, the block is not junk. You would buy and install thread savers which renew the grip.
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Old April 14th, 2024, 11:16 AM
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Thanks Gary, that is also a very viable possibility. Regardless, I’d appreciate it if you could share your findings for general experience purposes Paul. Thanks much.😃
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Old April 14th, 2024, 11:30 AM
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I happen to have a spare 455 block here so I torqued it up on the floor - similar spongy feeling on the 4 front caps but they all made it to 120. I'll swap these main bolts over to my build and see what happens. I loosened all on my first block and checked for visible issues - don't see hourglassing or bits of shavings on the threads. But I did not get the usual "crack" when breaking them free initially - think I have them simply oiled too much? This is embarrassing
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Old April 14th, 2024, 11:46 AM
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Just to be sure a previous Bubba hasn't pranked me - all 10 main cap bolts are identical, right? Even though the rear cap is shorter and get a ton more thread engagement, the front 8 taller caps use the same bolts and only use half the threads, correct?
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Don’t go from 100 to 120. You need a bigger spread than that for accuracy.
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Old April 14th, 2024, 04:59 PM
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Also . . . . are you certain that your torque wrench is correct ?
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Old April 14th, 2024, 05:09 PM
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Good point. It is a relatively new Craftsman 1/2" digital unit. Reviews were all good.
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Old April 14th, 2024, 06:11 PM
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Might be worth borrowing one to compare it to. Personally I am not a big fan of digital torque wrenches but thats just me.
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Old April 14th, 2024, 06:19 PM
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All is resolved but could have been a combination of things. I switched the main cap bolts from the other block, cleaned up most of the extra oils on threads and under bolt heads, torqued in a broader sequence (50, 75, 100, 120 vs 40, 60, 80, 100, 120). All bolts felt good and hit the numbers. Thanks for the help
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