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Old March 26th, 2021, 08:31 AM
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Real 442 Vin

Good morning everyone,

Can someone please verify that this is *not* a real 442 Vin number?

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Old March 26th, 2021, 08:52 AM
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It IS a 442 vin.
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Not the vin, the cowl tag starts with 344 indicated it is a 442. Some true 442 also had 336 on tag.

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Old March 26th, 2021, 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by classicmuscle.442
Not the vin, the trim plate starts with 344 indicated it is a 442.
Yeah what he said. That's what I meant.
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The 34477 body type number does fall into the 442 bucket. Being a "77" post sport coupe it is more rare than a "67" convertible or a "87" Holiday coupe.
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Originally Posted by classicmuscle.442
Not the vin, the cowl tag starts with 344 indicated it is a 442. Some true 442 also had 336 on tag.
Not the case in 1970. A 442 will have 344.
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This is the number from the dash. Does it look correct? Thanks in advance.

344770M2111845
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That is a real 442 vin from a car built in Lansing
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It doesn’t come up on any vin check? Even Hagertys.
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None of the VIN check websites are geared to these 60's and 70's, or earlier data.
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Originally Posted by Olds45570
This is the number from the dash. Does it look correct? Thanks in advance.

344770M2111845
This VIN has one too many numbers in it. Should be 13 total characters.
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Originally Posted by 4+4+2=10
Not the case in 1970. A 442 will have 344.
Not true, cowl tag on a '70 could start with 336, vin will show 344.
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Originally Posted by Olds45570
It doesn’t come up on any vin check? Even Hagertys.
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None of the VIN check websites are geared to these 60's and 70's, or earlier data.
The VIN-check websites work only for 1981 and later cars that have 17-digit VINs.
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Originally Posted by Olds45570
This is the number from the dash. Does it look correct? Thanks in advance.

344770M2111845
Originally Posted by 70W-32
This VIN has one too many numbers in it. Should be 13 total characters.
Yes, he has too many serial number digits. Following the M should be six digits, not seven. If you go back and look at the VIN on the dash through the front window, I bet you'll find that it is ...211845.
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Thanks Jaunty 75. Extra 1 from the seller.
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Old March 26th, 2021, 04:42 PM
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some vin sites will show old cars that have had recent activity, but most don't.
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Originally Posted by classicmuscle.442
Not true, cowl tag on a '70 could start with 336, vin will show 344.
I'm always open to learn something. This is true for 68/9 but did not think 70/1 ever used a 336 on the cowl tag of a 442. Can you quote a source?
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Old March 26th, 2021, 04:51 PM
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Search on here will show it.
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Next time I'm out in the shop I will look in my 70 CSM. I'm not inclined to believe everything written on the internet.
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Originally Posted by 4+4+2=10
Not the case in 1970. A 442 will have 344.
I agree with that. 68/69 442 are the only ones I know were documented that way. Which 70 442s had a 336 from Fisher?

I'm always open to learn new things, but I haven't seen a cowl tag on a 70 442 that didn't have 344 on it. Lansing would be the only goobers I know that would do something like this if they did. They always did weird crap. The only 336 type stuff I've seen is in the stuff printed in the parts books. But I also take stuff I see in a parts book with a grain of salt sometimes. Note that these books were normally printed long before they built the first car. And they're not always correct. Because we all know there were countless thousands of 442 body tags in 1970 with 344.

If anyone has a documented 70 442 with a Cutlass code on the cowl tag, I would love to see one.
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This Old's specific VIN decoder is supposed to work for all Old's from 1946-1997.
https://www.v8cars.hu/oldsvin/decode.php
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Not true, cowl tag on a '70 could start with 336, vin will show 344.
1968 & '69 Lansing built cars only. Documented in the Fisher Body Service Manual.
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Originally Posted by 4+4+2=10
Next time I'm out in the shop I will look in my 70 CSM. I'm not inclined to believe everything written on the internet.
What is a CSM?? Oh this world. Spelling???...
I am just too old.
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What is a CSM??
Chassis Service Manual.
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Originally Posted by classicmuscle.442
Not true, cowl tag on a '70 could start with 336, vin will show 344.
Nope. The CSM, Fisher Body Manual, and Parts book all completely document that the 336 cowl tags were only used on 1968-69 442s.
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Hi Joe, do you know where I can find a power steering pump and the other parts involved to convert 1969 Olds 442 W-30 from manual to power?
Thanks
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Originally Posted by spanman
Hi Joe, do you know where I can find a power steering pump and the other parts involved to convert 1969 Olds 442 W-30 from manual to power?
Thanks
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